I've been a hater of Zope (2) for a while, but I hear great things about Zope 3. I also know that the Zope community contains some of the smartest folks in Python, so I'm sure Zope 3 is worth hearing about.

So I thought to myself, maybe a 3 hr tutorial on Zope 3 would be a good investment!

Umm?

--titus

p.s. What I'd really like is "An Introduction to How Zope Mangles, Tangles, and Twists Normal Python, For People Who Think They Know Python Already, ThankYouVeryMuch." And then the same for Twisted.

Legacy Comments

Posted by Doug Napoleone on 2008-02-01 at 16:51.

We can't make people submit tutorial proposals.    NOTE: Last year
Jeff Rush gave a 4 day Introduction to Zope3 Sprint. The sprints are
free and do not require a conference registration.    Not sure if he
is going to do it again.

Posted by Steve Holden on 2008-02-01 at 21:58.

As far as Twisted goes I am trying an Open Space experiment this year
provisionally entitled "Teach Me Twisted" which reverses the normal
information flow and has the audience teaching me what I need to know
to use Twisted. I'm hoping it will be fun - the Twisted community is
very outgoing and welcoming. Maybe someone could do something similar
with the Zope 3 crowd?

Posted by Kevin Teague on 2008-02-02 at 17:34.

There is a talk on the "new" face of Zope 3, Grok, but no full-blown
tutorials:    <a href="http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/talks/?sear
ch=Grok">http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/talks/?search=Grok</a>
There are also a few talks on Zope 3 available on plone.tv (although
none that are really good to recommend as a "intro to Zope 3" type of
video):    &lt;a href="http://plone.tv/search?SearchableText=zope&amp;
x=36&amp;y=9"&gt;http://plone.tv/search?SearchableText=zope&amp;x=36&a
mp;y=9&lt;/a&gt;    One of the prime reasons for Zope 3 was **not** to
mangle, tangle and twist normal Python :) The interesting lessons from
Zope 3 for a regular Python person who's just curious as to what
wisdom may be in the Zope 3 project I believe are in it's design:
favoring object composition over class inheritance and design by
contract. Understand the Zope Component Architecture and you will have
the Zen of Zope 3:    <a href="http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html
">http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html</a>    Many of the Zope 3
developers have also spend at lot of time in 2007 working with Python
eggs, while it's not specific to web frameworks, the tutorial on Eggs
and Buildout will cover what many Zope developers have been working on
of late:    <a href="http://us.pycon.org/2008/tutorials/EggsRush/">htt
p://us.pycon.org/2008/tutorials/EggsRush/</a>

Posted by Noah Gift on 2008-02-08 at 22:27.

megadittos titus!  I feel the same way :)